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The Expanse is vast, and traversing the space between worlds in the solar system requires a ship. For a crew, a ship is freedom, home, safety, and a source of income, but also a source of responsibility and often debt. Out in space, other ships are potential targets, allies, or threats. The Ships of the Expanse offers details on many of the kinds of space ships characters in an Expanse game might encounter, or perhaps even own. From shuttles and racing pinnaces to lumbering ice-haulers and massive warships, the sourcebook describes them all. Ships of the Expanse also features information on  space stations and new rules for maintenance and repair, buying and selling cargo, new stunts and hazards, and much more.

 
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Jussi M July 05, 2021 12:31 pm UTC
In an update on GreenRonin.com, co-author Ian Lemke expounds upon the complexities of writing a book like this:

"There are 28 ships detailed in this book, and we took a lot of time and care to get every one right. We wanted to [...] make sure that they were as realistic as possible."

Unfortunately, this is not quite as true as one might have hoped.
In TRULY realistic warship designs at this particular point in the Expanse timeline:

- Command Decks (Bridge, CIC, etc) of large ships are NOT placed at the bow of the ship, where even a single stray PDC round from an enemy ahead could knock it out, and where negative g-forces make all operations at crew stations impossible every time the ship changes heading (on small ships these effects are more marginal);

- Crew Quarters are NOT bunched into a single continuous stack of decks, where the whole off-shift crew would need to try to crowd through the same narrow avenues in case of a sudden call to stations;...See more
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Jussi M July 05, 2021 2:55 pm UTC
For full disclosure: thus far, I have only seen the Kickstarter preview, comprising seven of those 28 ships.

However, of those seven, every single warship fails on every single point listed above — along with some other, rather odd points (e.g. why don't any of the ships, even the big destroyers, carry any small craft of any kind whatsoever?).

I foresee seeing the remaining 21 with a mixture of anticipation and trepidation, once the print edition arrives...
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Gus B July 05, 2021 8:46 pm UTC
Wow. That's kinda depressing, I was really looking forward to this book coming out. Do they at least get the layouts of the ships we do see in the series correct?

Also, I've seen a lot of Spacedock, it's a wonderful source for in universe lore and the re-telling of what we could already find out for ourselves but this guy's sense of naval architecture is definitely stuck in StarWars/Trek/etc. The Expanse is supposed to be about how things would REALLY work given the strictures of good sense and actual physics. If the guys at Green Ronin had cast around a bit better, they could have referenced an (albeit aged) offering by Dream Pod 9 called the Jovian Chronicles, that is much more hard sci-fi (for all it's Gundam-esque stylings) than space opera will ever be.

Jussi if you ever decided to write a proper treatise on how hard sci-fi naval construction should proceed, I for one would happily read and disseminate it.
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Jussi M July 05, 2021 10:49 pm UTC
As for the series ship layouts, no they don’t, but you really can’t blame Green Ronin for that — there are two very solid reasons for this:

One, the RPG has no connection whatsoever to the series production and its IP, so it references none of the material — designs, character likeness, lore, etc — generated for the series. The game’s deck plans e.g. for the Tachi/Rocinante thus derive from the books, not the TV series.

And two, the series ship layouts suffer from the all too common malady recognised in all too many SciFi ships, from the Space: 1999 Eagle, through the Millennium Falcon, on to the Nostromo, and many, many more — the interiors don’t really fit into the exteriors.
It’s impossible, or next to it anyway, to draw deck plans that line up AND fit inside the exterior geometry while staying anywhere near the indicated scale of the craft.

As for the treatise, that’s a very good idea — thanks! I should be able to cobble together a couple...See more
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Tim L June 27, 2021 12:06 pm UTC
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The blurb no longer mentions anything about this being a pre-order, so does that mean that the actual final file is available here now? If so, how about an actual preview dear GR peeps?
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Franck F July 01, 2021 8:03 pm UTC
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It is the real deal, I just downloaded it. 85 Mb PDF file. 147 pages, almost half of them are expanded rules on ships (ship creation, ships in action, life in a shipboard) and the rest is ship specifications with beautiful deck plans. A nice supplement, I'd recommend it.

The only drawback is that the ship deck plans are not high resolution enough to use them in a VTT (zooming on them, they do get pixelated quickly). I'd greatly appreciate if the product came with standalone image files with these decks plans.
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STEVEN T May 09, 2021 8:07 pm UTC
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Any updates on when this will be released?
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Daniel Q December 17, 2020 7:51 pm UTC
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What's the status on this? Any ETA?
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Daniel Q January 13, 2021 12:31 am UTC
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The silence is deafening on this one.
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Dirk K December 15, 2020 8:54 pm UTC
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It is an expensive joke from Green Ronin, I’m afraid. Buy now, get nothing and maybe you get something when we maybe work on it. Very disappointing for paying customers.....
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Travis H January 19, 2021 5:14 pm UTC
Technically not, considering a form of this book already went to the kickstarter backers, it mostly exists.

When the rest of us are going to get it here I don't know lol
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Dirk K January 19, 2021 6:36 pm UTC
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I was a backer an never get something. But at the end a complete book must be the goal and Green Ronin is always over the date. That is very disapointing
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Travis H February 13, 2021 3:57 pm UTC
I misread the update (found out about the kickstarter too late to back) where they said the deck plans had already been sent to backers as a version of the book had been sent out. That was my bad.
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Thierry H November 19, 2020 5:15 pm UTC
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I will try to be clear, is it possible to download it now, because previously it was said that the PDF would be there for the 17th of november...?
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Thierry H November 18, 2020 11:02 pm UTC
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I don't really understand, the PDF is available in a Beta version or it will be available later on?
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VICKI R L September 22, 2020 2:13 am UTC
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Will this be usable for vtt?
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Erik F March 04, 2021 6:29 pm UTC
As usable as any pdf is.
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Franck F August 30, 2021 9:59 pm UTC
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Yes and No:
-- You can technically use the images of the ships for your VTT
-- The images are not high resolution enough to scale them well without heavily pixelating.

I would grealy appreciate if Green Ronin either released a high resolution PDF OR released the maps as images in high resolution!
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Lloyd R October 12, 2021 8:21 pm UTC
"The images are not high resolution enough to scale them well without heavily pixelating."
To what degree is this true? At 1200 pixels? 2100? 3500?
I ask cuz the image size in pixels matters immensely.
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